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Topic: State tournament brackets and results - history Posted: Oct 27 2022 at 10:15am |
Awesome stats, thanks for compiling this! Maybe some of the historians here can answer this question. Has there ever been a Cinderella story champ in PA? Someone who never had many wins or didn't start until one season when they came out of nowhere and stunned everyone to win a PA Title.
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Posted: Mar 28 2021 at 11:43am |
Excellent addition. Council Rock South is approaching "legendary" as a program. Boyertown with an incredible streak of 26 years (and counting) with a State Qualifier
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Posted: Mar 27 2021 at 10:13pm |
Interesting stats. 51 years in a row with a qualifier.Wow!
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Posted: Mar 27 2021 at 4:24pm |
Just added a new page to the state championships history section. This one lists the all-time and active streaks of qualifiers, medalists, finalists, and champions by schools:
Canon-McMillan and Easton both have the longest active streaks for qualifiers at 51 years. That's the longest ever as well. Reynolds is right behind them at 48 years.
Northampton has the longest active (and all-time) streak for medalists at 38 years. Reynolds is second on the list at 24. Council Rock South and Nazareth are tied for the third longest active medal streak at 18.
Longest ever streak for finalists is 16 by Nazareth that ended in 2019. Bethlehem Catholic has the longest current streak at 12, doubling up Seneca Valley with 6.
Clearfield had champions over 13 straight years to have the longest streak for champs. Bethlehem Catholic is getting close to that mark, as their current streak is 10.
You can get to this page anytime from the main state history page, just click on the second link on the right:
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Posted: Feb 03 2017 at 4:31pm |
NCAARef wrote:
MTLeister wrote:
Part way through entering the data, I posted some stats on number of wrestlers who competed at states, medalists, and champions. Here are the final numbers now that everything is in...
Total wrestlers to compete at states: 13,175
Total wrestlers with medals: Any medal count: 5,438 (41.275%) 1 medal: 3,506 (26.611%) 2 medals: 1,386 (10.520%) 3 medals: 405 (3.074%) 4 medals: 141 (1.070%)
Total wrestlers with championships: Any champ count: 1,197 (9.085%) 1 championship: 955 (7.249%) 2 championships: 187 (1.419%) 3 championships: 43 (0.326%) 4 championships: 12 (0.091%)
There might be a few more corrections but it shouldn't change the numbers all that much. |
Mike looking at these numbers I was taken aback by the % of competitors who won a medal. Then I realized for so many years only 4 guys qualified and the semifinal losers were given 3rd place.
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Ref: I don't think you're quite accurate on that one. You are right that only 4 guys qualified for many years. However, for as long as I can remember, there were no 3rd place awards. I'm an eye witness.
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Posted: Feb 03 2017 at 3:08pm |
Yeah that's true. I should run the numbers from 1974 to present and see how it ends up. Probably be way different.
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Posted: Feb 03 2017 at 2:43pm |
MTLeister wrote:
Part way through entering the data, I posted some stats on number of wrestlers who competed at states, medalists, and champions. Here are the final numbers now that everything is in...
Total wrestlers to compete at states: 13,175
Total wrestlers with medals: Any medal count: 5,438 (41.275%) 1 medal: 3,506 (26.611%) 2 medals: 1,386 (10.520%) 3 medals: 405 (3.074%) 4 medals: 141 (1.070%)
Total wrestlers with championships: Any champ count: 1,197 (9.085%) 1 championship: 955 (7.249%) 2 championships: 187 (1.419%) 3 championships: 43 (0.326%) 4 championships: 12 (0.091%)
There might be a few more corrections but it shouldn't change the numbers all that much. |
Mike looking at these numbers I was taken aback by the % of competitors who won a medal. Then I realized for so many years only 4 guys qualified and the semifinal losers were given 3rd place.
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Posted: Dec 04 2015 at 12:08pm |
Part way through entering the data, I posted some stats on number of wrestlers who competed at states, medalists, and champions. Here are the final numbers now that everything is in...
Total wrestlers to compete at states: 13,175
Total wrestlers with medals: Any medal count: 5,438 (41.275%) 1 medal: 3,506 (26.611%) 2 medals: 1,386 (10.520%) 3 medals: 405 (3.074%) 4 medals: 141 (1.070%)
Total wrestlers with championships: Any champ count: 1,197 (9.085%) 1 championship: 955 (7.249%) 2 championships: 187 (1.419%) 3 championships: 43 (0.326%) 4 championships: 12 (0.091%)
There might be a few more corrections but it shouldn't change the numbers all that much.
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Posted: Nov 18 2015 at 9:53pm |
Someone emailed me tonight with a correction, and it involved a unique stat.
There are 2 guys in PIAA history to make it to the finals all 4 years but fail to win the title.
Sam Coursen from Forty Fort, class of 1949 Bob Simpson from Warrior Run, class of 1988
Assuming no other major typos/mistakes with the data, there are 29 wrestlers who were 4x finalists.
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Posted: Sep 25 2015 at 6:58am |
Impressive OC!
The missing team is Quakertown from 2005...with two 2nds.
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Posted: Sep 24 2015 at 11:29pm |
Teams with 3 finalists- 1939 Cheltenham - 1-1st 2-2nd 1941 Lower Merion - 3-2nd 2005 Council Rock South - 2-1st 1-2nd
Teams with 2 finalists- 1977 Council Rock 2-1st 1987 North Penn 2-1st 1999 Council Rock 2-2nd 2004 Pennridge 2-2nd 2006 Upper Perk 2-1st 2006 Boyertown 2-2nd 2013 Norristown 2-2nd
Missing one. I'll try to figure it out.
Council Rock has been carrying District One's water since 1977. They've won 2 state titles (1977, 2005) and have had numerous state finalists over the years
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Posted: Sep 24 2015 at 9:42pm |
Berwyn wrote:
Lower Merion had 3 state finalists in 1941. That team has to be up there for greatest of all time teams. Maybe only D1 team ever to have 3 state finalists. |
Of course I had to look this up, LOL...
Three D1 teams have had 3 finalists in the same year. Lower Merion in 1941 is one of those teams. Anyone want to guess on the other 2 teams??
Eight D1 teams have had 2 finalists in the same year (excluding the 3 that had 3 in the same year). Anyone want to guess those?
Maybe I'll eventually make this kind of stat a report to view.
Edited by MTLeister - Sep 24 2015 at 9:42pm
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Posted: Sep 24 2015 at 9:14pm |
Lower Merion had 3 state finalists in 1941. That team has to be up there for greatest of all time teams. Maybe only D1 team ever to have 3 state finalists.
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Posted: Sep 24 2015 at 2:34pm |
Awesome job, going thru those old brackets really brings back some great memories!
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Posted: Sep 18 2015 at 10:44pm |
Excellent work by all involved......Well done fellas, well done.
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Posted: Sep 17 2015 at 9:16am |
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In 19 39, Frank McCorkel represented Hershey. In 1973, Don McCorkel won for Hershey. Don McCorkel was a beast. I saw him wrestle a lot back then cause I lived out in District 3 in the early 70's. He ran roughshod at states, a major and two pins, and he was built like a monster. He just bulled people into submission.[Quote]
Wade McCorkel also took 8th at states for Hershey in 2006
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Posted: Sep 17 2015 at 7:43am |
oldcougar wrote:
Hey, maybe Mike and his guys want to put up the brackets for District 1 over the years.
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Working on it...at least back to 1974 to start. It's almost done...with what Jack Holt has accumulated. I was going to wait until November to publish but might do it sooner, once it's ready.
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Posted: Sep 16 2015 at 10:27pm |
This stuff is great. You look back at the old days and you see patterns develop. You see names that have reappeared years later from the same school.
For example, in 1939, Harold Welker won for Shamokin. In 1963, Bill Welker won for Shamokin. btw, Bill Welker became a very influential coach and wrestling instructor, I think in West Virginia.
In 1939, Frank McCorkel represented Hershey. In 1973, Don McCorkel won for Hershey. Don McCorkel was a beast. I saw him wrestle a lot back then cause I lived out in District 3 in the early 70's. He ran roughshod at states, a major and two pins, and he was built like a monster. He just bulled people into submission.
It's cool that in 1939, District 1 did very well - only 1 champ, but 7 finalists.
In 1973, Bill Vollrath placed 3rd for Hatboro Horsham. In '65 Lou Vollrath was 2nd in D1 for Hatboro. And then during the current generation Jimmy Vollrath did very well for CRS and Penn State.
It's great to have this information at our fingertips for those of us who like to think about the history of wrestling in PA.
Here's a weird factoid. In '73, Ray Frantz of Cranberry won the semi-finals 4-4 in regulation, then 9-0 in OT. Then he won the finals 4-4 in regulation, 13-1 in OT. There's a guy who had something going on in OT.
Hey, maybe Mike and his guys want to put up the brackets for District 1 over the years.
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Posted: Sep 16 2015 at 8:49pm |
Well, it's all done. Much quicker than I expected too. Couldn't have done it without Joe and Gary helping.
All the state brackets and results are now online:
That's going back to 1938... 78 years worth of data. Enjoy!
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Posted: Sep 16 2015 at 9:38am |
PAD1Dad wrote:
Is 1977 105 lbs incorrect? Didn't Bobby Weaver win his 3rd that year? |
Yes, it was wrong...he did win. I just fixed it. Thanks for catching that!
Edited by MTLeister - Sep 16 2015 at 9:38am
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