Malvern wins prep states
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Category: PIAA Districts
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Printed Date: Sep 26 2023 at 1:37am
Topic: Malvern wins prep states
Posted By: Berwyn
Subject: Malvern wins prep states
Date Posted: Feb 19 2023 at 11:38pm
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Posted By: Coffeeman2
Date Posted: Feb 24 2023 at 12:56pm
| It seems that no one cares, perhaps you should post this on the Pa prep wrestling forum. |
Posted By: Berwyn
Date Posted: Feb 26 2023 at 10:12am
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Here are some results to nibble on with your coffee this morning. https://www.flowrestling.org/articles/10629510-results-from-the-2023-national-prep-wrestling-championships" rel="nofollow - https://www.flowrestling.org/articles/10629510-results-from-the-2023-national-prep-wrestling-championships |
Posted By: Coffeeman2
Date Posted: Mar 01 2023 at 12:56pm
Congrats, you took 3rd out of about 10 good teams.
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Berwyn wrote:Posted By: Cross body
Date Posted: Mar 01 2023 at 6:01pm
| Are you saying there are only 10 good teams at prep nationals? |
Posted By: Coffeeman2
Date Posted: Mar 02 2023 at 1:06pm
Ok, really good teams, maybe 13
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Posted By: Coffeeman2
Date Posted: Mar 02 2023 at 1:07pm
Ok, maybe 13 really good teams.
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Posted By: ChuckFalzioli
Date Posted: Mar 02 2023 at 2:21pm
If that. |
Posted By: Coffeeman2
Date Posted: Mar 02 2023 at 2:31pm
good point, I was feeling generous
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Posted By: SUUUUP
Date Posted: Mar 02 2023 at 4:15pm
Amazing how you guys forget to put a real bullet in the chamber before you shoot one over the bow. Let’s not focus on the top 4 all being ranked in the top 8 nationally. Let’s focus on your not good teams after the top 10. Western reserve was not in the top ten at Prep tournament But somehow tied District 1 champs Pennridge at ETR in team standings.
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Posted By: Cross body
Date Posted: Mar 03 2023 at 9:08am
| I’ve never even heard of Western Reserve. |
Posted By: monkeyBoy
Date Posted: Mar 03 2023 at 9:22am
Let's be honest, after those top 4 being ranked highly nationally - it falls completely off a cliff. Guess it's half-empty or half-full, right? Just because a team places high at an individual tournament, doesn't mean they are a good TEAM. Look at the ETR results. Western Reserve only had 3 wrestlers there - 2 placed. At National Preps, they had only 5 wrestlers - but 3 placed. That's how they score points in a tournament. If they do dual meets, they probably lose most of them simply because they don't have the numbers. Sadly that's the case for many prep schools. They might have 2-3 really good wrestlers but they also can't field a full lineup, or the lineup is full of brand new wrestlers. Look at some dual meet results between preps sometime, many are absolutely littered with forfeits [many with at least 5 or 6 of them]. Preps are like the PIAA and probably any other state association - you have some top tier teams that are really, really good, and you have many that are average at best. ------------- Shock the Monkey! |
Posted By: Cross body
Date Posted: Mar 03 2023 at 9:35am
| Wait, your saying western reserve only brought 3 kids to escape the rock, and they tied pennridge, who has pretty much a full lineup? |
Posted By: DPointer492
Date Posted: Mar 03 2023 at 10:25am
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Yes, looks like Western Reserve Academy brought just 3 wrestlers to ETR and 2 placed (3rd and 6th). Pennridge brought 13 but none placed. Pennridge team score 42 Western Reserve Academy 41.5
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Posted By: monkeyBoy
Date Posted: Mar 03 2023 at 10:34am
Don't you understand how tournament scoring works? ------------- Shock the Monkey! |
Posted By: SUUUUP
Date Posted: Mar 03 2023 at 12:04pm
My guess is he does. And when you show up with 13 kids. From a “good team” All they have to do is win one match each and you have 26 points. Plus pin points. Tournament that include full team. Are sometimes won by the sub par kids on the team that can score points. Not the studs who you know are getting points. Gilman is another team that didn’t finish in the top 10. But managed to finish well ahead of Nazareth , North Hampton. , and Rock South at the Beast. Monkey boy. I agree with a lot of your points above in the other post. Except after the top 4 if falls off a cliff. Short of Ironman. Which is by far the hardest. Powerade , beast ,ETR , Piaa states both division. Jersey states and National Preps are all very tough tournaments. If ranked they would vary different every year. The post was started by a 60 yr old conestoga guy with no affiliation to Malvern other then being a fan. Nobody from Malvern commented ,bragged etc. until 2 clowns made there normal hate comments of stupidity. And no wrestling knowledge. I did not reply to defend Malvern. And start another sh$t show thread. Just stating the tournament is legit. |
Posted By: Cross body
Date Posted: Mar 03 2023 at 1:04pm
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I know full well how tournament scoring works. I just think it’s interesting a so called weak team of 3 kids scored nearly the same as a full squad from Pennridge, who won a district title. And that’s not a knock against Pennridge.
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Posted By: monkeyBoy
Date Posted: Mar 03 2023 at 1:34pm
Well that's why there are tournament team rankings and dual meet team rankings. Obviously they have a good tournament team but don't appear to have a good dual meet team. Them vs Pennridge in a dual meet wouldn't be close. ------------- Shock the Monkey! |
Posted By: Cross body
Date Posted: Mar 03 2023 at 3:15pm
| So their team sucks, but they have a solid tournament team. Got it. Makes sense. |
Posted By: SUUUUP
Date Posted: Mar 03 2023 at 9:04pm
Well at least all those bad teams pay their electric bill
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Posted By: Cross body
Date Posted: Mar 03 2023 at 9:15pm
| Nice to see those tax dollars put to good use. |
Posted By: Berwyn
Date Posted: Mar 04 2023 at 6:12pm
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For all intents & purposes I was born a villanova guy. Displayed an article by our friend Nate & followed with Flow results. I do apologize for never noticing a prep section. I will act according to script next time my bad. |