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    Posted: Jul 02 2019 at 9:50pm
Mike,
 
I'm hoping that you can help me with your search options. I have two questions
 
1. Has a wrestler that placed 4th/5th at regionals, ever won AAA states?
 
2. What AAA state champion had the most losses (single season that he won states)?
 
I don't know the answer to either. I can think of a few regional 3rd place finishers that won states but no 4ths. There had to be someone, right?
 
I can only find one state champ with ten losses in a season but I'm thinking someone had to have more than ten.
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At least one of the wrestlers with 10 losses was Joey Ecklof of Northampton, who ended his sophomore season at 39-10. Even though he had the most losses I ever saw at states, he ended up a 3xer including beating Donnie Jones in the a supermatch pitting two 2x champs against each other.

check out Ecklof's second takedown. It's a honey:


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Mike another good question is has a school won PA states in both wrestling & football two years in a row like Southern Columbia might do this coming year?

The assistant coach of Southern Columbia is Conestoga's old head wrestling coach Eddie Spiller's son & former pioneer Tony DeHaven's godson Bo Spiller. Bo was a PJW state champ for Marple Newtown youth wrestling before moving on to Solanco where he placed 4th & 2nd in AAA.
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tyson klump had a handful of losses his junior year

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Originally posted by Dodfan Dodfan wrote:

Mike,
 
I'm hoping that you can help me with your search options. I have two questions
 
1. Has a wrestler that placed 4th/5th at regionals, ever won AAA states?
 
2. What AAA state champion had the most losses (single season that he won states)?
 
I don't know the answer to either. I can think of a few regional 3rd place finishers that won states but no 4ths. There had to be someone, right?
 
I can only find one state champ with ten losses in a season but I'm thinking someone had to have more than ten.

To answer your first question... technically no, not in AAA.  There have been 4 wrestlers that have placed 4th or 5th in their region to win a state title.  Three of them in AA and one in Class A (which was essentially AAA - for 2 years they did A and B instead of AAA and AA).  They are:

5th = Jake Riegel (2014, Bethlehem Catholic, Freshman, 106, AA)

4th = Eric Bowser (1986, Richland, Sophomore, 112, AA)
4th = Rodney Wright (1986, Lakeview, Junior, 185, AA)
4th = Shawn Griffith (1975, Mount Lebanon, Senior, 126, A)

Your second question was already answered.  Here's the list of all state champs that have had 8 or more losses in their championship season:

10 = Joey Ecklof (39-10, 2003, Northampton, Sophomore, 135, AAA)
10 = Tyson Klump (24-10, 2015, Nazareth, Junior, 106, AAA)

9 = Tyson Klump (40-9, 2016, Nazareth, Senior, 106, AAA)
9 = Steve Santia (43-9, 2007, Hempfield Area, Senior, 285, AAA)
9 = Scott Clymer (40-9, 2006, Northwestern Lehigh, Junior, 125, AA)

8 = Joe Caramanica (41-8, 2004, Nazareth, Junior, 135, AAA)
8 = Damon Greenwald (43-8, 2016, Burrell, Senior, 152, AA)
8 = Josh Henson (30-8-1, 1992, North Penn, Senior, 171, AAA)
8 = Alejandro Herrera (46-8, 2018, Seneca Valley, Freshman, 106, AAA)


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Originally posted by Berwyn Berwyn wrote:

Mike another good question is has a school won PA states in both wrestling & football two years in a row like Southern Columbia might do this coming year?

The assistant coach of Southern Columbia is Conestoga's old head wrestling coach Eddie Spiller's son & former pioneer Tony DeHaven's godson Bo Spiller. Bo was a PJW state champ for Marple Newtown youth wrestling before moving on to Solanco where he placed 4th & 2nd in AAA.

Unfortunately I can't answer that one... don't have football data.
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Berwyn: Central Dauphin won both one year, but I don't know any other teams that won both titles even once.       Can you think of any other schools that did that? 


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Originally posted by MTLeister MTLeister wrote:

Originally posted by Dodfan Dodfan wrote:

Mike,
 
I'm hoping that you can help me with your search options. I have two questions
 
1. Has a wrestler that placed 4th/5th at regionals, ever won AAA states?
 
2. What AAA state champion had the most losses (single season that he won states)?
 
I don't know the answer to either. I can think of a few regional 3rd place finishers that won states but no 4ths. There had to be someone, right?
 
I can only find one state champ with ten losses in a season but I'm thinking someone had to have more than ten.

To answer your first question... technically no, not in AAA.  There have been 4 wrestlers that have placed 4th or 5th in their region to win a state title.  Three of them in AA and one in Class A (which was essentially AAA - for 2 years they did A and B instead of AAA and AA).  They are:

5th = Jake Riegel (2014, Bethlehem Catholic, Freshman, 106, AA)

4th = Eric Bowser (1986, Richland, Sophomore, 112, AA)
4th = Rodney Wright (1986, Lakeview, Junior, 185, AA)
4th = Shawn Griffith (1975, Mount Lebanon, Senior, 126, A)

Your second question was already answered.  Here's the list of all state champs that have had 8 or more losses in their championship season:

10 = Joey Ecklof (39-10, 2003, Northampton, Sophomore, 135, AAA)
10 = Tyson Klump (24-10, 2015, Nazareth, Junior, 106, AAA)

9 = Tyson Klump (40-9, 2016, Nazareth, Senior, 106, AAA)
9 = Steve Santia (43-9, 2007, Hempfield Area, Senior, 285, AAA)
9 = Scott Clymer (40-9, 2006, Northwestern Lehigh, Junior, 125, AA)

8 = Joe Caramanica (41-8, 2004, Nazareth, Junior, 135, AAA)
8 = Damon Greenwald (43-8, 2016, Burrell, Senior, 152, AA)
8 = Josh Henson (30-8-1, 1992, North Penn, Senior, 171, AAA)
8 = Alejandro Herrera (46-8, 2018, Seneca Valley, Freshman, 106, AAA)


 
Klump was the one I was thinking of. I thought someone would have had more than 10 though. I 'm shocked Joey Eckloff had that many losses in a season. I would have guessed he would have less than 10 losses in his career. He was a great wrestler! Klump's state title in 2015 received a major boost from Riley Palmer failing to make weight. In 2016, I would bet the majority of those nine loses came at 113 and 120.
 
Only one 4th place finisher won states in the big school division in over 40 years is incredible to me.
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Jake Riegal is son to former Conestoga head coach Tom Riegal. Tom also coached & cornered Conestoga in two state finals in 1993 Jason Lamotta & 1990 Tony DeHaven.
1993 may have been stoga's all time best team.

OC I will try & drill down to find any other teams who won both state titles in the same year. I did not know about Cental Dauphlin. Southern Columbia has a boat load of talent & it would be interesting to see how they would stack up next year wrestling in AAA or playing football against St.Joe's.
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Dodfan: I remember laughing at the beginning of the state tourney when I saw Joey Ecklof had 10 losses. Then he began wrestling and he made me a believer. In the bout I posted above, the announcer said Ecklof kept his matches close and was very defensive. He had his Ecklofs mixed up. Jeff Ecklof was the posterboy for Northampton wrestling, boring: stall, stall, pick up a late escape and win by one. But Joey would try anything anytime. He was one of my favorites to watch through the years and he just was having fun. Before his match with Donnie Jones, he and Donnie were joking and laughing, having a ball. Then they went out and wrestled the match of the century. 
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Originally posted by Berwyn Berwyn wrote:

Jake Riegal is son to former Conestoga head coach Tom Riegal. Tom also coached & cornered Conestoga in two state finals in 1993 Jason Lamotta & 1990 Tony DeHaven.
1993 may have been stoga's all time best team.
 
Really? I guess if you're talking about a tournament team it's possible. They didn't win the Central League in 1993. I remember the teams that won league titles from 2003-2006. Their team in 2004 was a very good dual meet team.
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Three to states in 1993. They could of had 4 but the HWT Montaes Douglas was deemed ineligible. MD was a returning SQ. IMHO Tom Riegal was the most successful coach in stoga history. Look at his own son winning PA state as a frosh.

The 1993 team may have had more SQ's then all of 2000's put together. I'll look it up. All central league is mainly meaningless compared to Hershey Chocolate.

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Mike,
 
I have another question. I hope you can answer it. I know there have been several father/son wrestling state champions. Has there ever been a grandfather/grandson wrestling state champions? I'm not aware of any but I don't know for sure.
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Originally posted by Dodfan Dodfan wrote:

Mike,
 
I have another question. I hope you can answer it. I know there have been several father/son wrestling state champions. Has there ever been a grandfather/grandson wrestling state champions? I'm not aware of any but I don't know for sure.

Good question.  I might have to post that to Facebook/Twitter and see what people say.  I don't have that kind of info... yet, ha.
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Originally posted by MTLeister MTLeister wrote:

Originally posted by Dodfan Dodfan wrote:

Mike,
 
I have another question. I hope you can answer it. I know there have been several father/son wrestling state champions. Has there ever been a grandfather/grandson wrestling state champions? I'm not aware of any but I don't know for sure.

Good question.  I might have to post that to Facebook/Twitter and see what people say.  I don't have that kind of info... yet, ha.
 
If it hasn't happened yet, it might in the next two seasons.
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