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I suspect all three of them recruit.
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Well said.
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Originally posted by botero botero wrote:

Like Nazareth and Waynesburg and Reynolds?

Please list the PJW champions that have attended those schools in the past 15 years. There has to be dozens with all the recruiting they are doing. 
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Don't forget, there's a big difference between schools (coaches, administrators, etc) recruiting and people enrolling their kids into private schools or moving to a new public school district on their own.

If any of those schools mentioned actually are or were actively recruiting athletes to their schools, they'd be punished.  See Bishop McCort.  They got caught recruiting TWICE in the last few years.

And don't misinterpret what I'm saying, I don't like the private schools dominating the team side of things either but they are playing by the PIAA rules - even if it doesn't feel like it.
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Originally posted by monkeyBoy monkeyBoy wrote:

Don't forget, there's a big difference between schools (coaches, administrators, etc) recruiting and people enrolling their kids into private schools or moving to a new public school district on their own.

If any of those schools mentioned actually are or were actively recruiting athletes to their schools, they'd be punished.  See Bishop McCort.  They got caught recruiting TWICE in the last few years.

And don't misinterpret what I'm saying, I don't like the private schools dominating the team side of things either but they are playing by the PIAA rules - even if it doesn't feel like it.

I agree with you. I highly doubt BECA recruits anyone. They are however an option for elite wrestlers that live in a school district with a less-competitive wrestling program. That happens every year and will continue to be the case for years to come. 
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You are so correct! Schools that build a strong program that get results will draw the athletes. In your community why are some programs better then others? They draw the athletes because of their success. The best recruiter is a successful program. The programs mentioned all have a long tradition that naturally will draw wrestlers both from in and out of the community. The question is what can I do better? "If you build it they will come." 
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Reynolds has a PIAA state champ from another team at their school this year. Does that one count? 
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Originally posted by botero botero wrote:

Reynolds has a PIAA state champ from another team at their school this year. Does that one count? 

Saw that news and honestly was shocked that he'll be eligible for the post-season, if the rumors are true.  Maybe I shouldn't have been shocked at this point?  Curious how they got that approved if true, but we'll probably never know (and that's probably for the best, I suppose).  Considering how close those two districts are, I doubt the reason would be a parent's job changed.  Family used to have a pretty active twitter account too but now it's private, so there's that.

Either way, I think everyone would agree that it's much easier for a private school to assemble a "super team" than a public school.  Though clearly both can do it with transfers.

If we think it's bad in wrestling, check out basketball and football.  There's a reason the PIAA included transfers in their competition formula for the classifications of those sports.
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Originally posted by botero botero wrote:

Reynolds has a PIAA state champ from another team at their school this year. Does that one count? 

Faith has a 21 year old sophomore too
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Originally posted by mo bloodyoung mo bloodyoung wrote:

Faith has a 21 year old sophomore too

If that's true, wouldn't that make him ineligible to participate in PIAA athletics?
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Originally posted by monkeyBoy monkeyBoy wrote:

Originally posted by mo bloodyoung mo bloodyoung wrote:

Faith has a 21 year old sophomore too

If that's true, wouldn't that make him ineligible to participate in PIAA athletics?
It's obviously just a bad joke. 
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Originally posted by botero botero wrote:

Reynolds has a PIAA state champ from another team at their school this year. Does that one count? 
 
No. I said specifically "PJW champions". If those schools recruit, surely they got some PJW champions to transfer in prior to beginning H.S.
 
Also I'm talking about the JH tournament.
 
 
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Originally posted by monkeyBoy monkeyBoy wrote:

Originally posted by botero botero wrote:

Reynolds has a PIAA state champ from another team at their school this year. Does that one count? 

Saw that news and honestly was shocked that he'll be eligible for the post-season, if the rumors are true.  Maybe I shouldn't have been shocked at this point?  Curious how they got that approved if true, but we'll probably never know (and that's probably for the best, I suppose).  Considering how close those two districts are, I doubt the reason would be a parent's job changed.  Family used to have a pretty active twitter account too but now it's private, so there's that.

Either way, I think everyone would agree that it's much easier for a private school to assemble a "super team" than a public school.  Though clearly both can do it with transfers.

If we think it's bad in wrestling, check out basketball and football.  There's a reason the PIAA included transfers in their competition formula for the classifications of those sports.
 
Does anyone honestly believe Reynolds "recruited" that wrestler? Don't get me wrong, the transfer is almost certainly athletically motivated but no one from Reynolds recruited him.
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Originally posted by Dodfan Dodfan wrote:

Originally posted by monkeyBoy monkeyBoy wrote:

Originally posted by botero botero wrote:

Reynolds has a PIAA state champ from another team at their school this year. Does that one count? 

Saw that news and honestly was shocked that he'll be eligible for the post-season, if the rumors are true.  Maybe I shouldn't have been shocked at this point?  Curious how they got that approved if true, but we'll probably never know (and that's probably for the best, I suppose).  Considering how close those two districts are, I doubt the reason would be a parent's job changed.  Family used to have a pretty active twitter account too but now it's private, so there's that.

Either way, I think everyone would agree that it's much easier for a private school to assemble a "super team" than a public school.  Though clearly both can do it with transfers.

If we think it's bad in wrestling, check out basketball and football.  There's a reason the PIAA included transfers in their competition formula for the classifications of those sports.
 
Does anyone honestly believe Reynolds "recruited" that wrestler? Don't get me wrong, the transfer is almost certainly athletically motivated but no one from Reynolds recruited him.

I saw yesterday that Hickory did not sign off on the transfer, and there's apparently a District 10 hearing today on the matter.  As it stands now, he's not eligible for regular season or post-season.  I'm not sure if the hearing today will address both appeals that are needed or just for the regular season.
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Originally posted by MTLeister MTLeister wrote:

Originally posted by Dodfan Dodfan wrote:

Originally posted by monkeyBoy monkeyBoy wrote:

Originally posted by botero botero wrote:

Reynolds has a PIAA state champ from another team at their school this year. Does that one count? 

Saw that news and honestly was shocked that he'll be eligible for the post-season, if the rumors are true.  Maybe I shouldn't have been shocked at this point?  Curious how they got that approved if true, but we'll probably never know (and that's probably for the best, I suppose).  Considering how close those two districts are, I doubt the reason would be a parent's job changed.  Family used to have a pretty active twitter account too but now it's private, so there's that.

Either way, I think everyone would agree that it's much easier for a private school to assemble a "super team" than a public school.  Though clearly both can do it with transfers.

If we think it's bad in wrestling, check out basketball and football.  There's a reason the PIAA included transfers in their competition formula for the classifications of those sports.
 
Does anyone honestly believe Reynolds "recruited" that wrestler? Don't get me wrong, the transfer is almost certainly athletically motivated but no one from Reynolds recruited him.

I saw yesterday that Hickory did not sign off on the transfer, and there's apparently a District 10 hearing today on the matter.  As it stands now, he's not eligible for regular season or post-season.  I'm not sure if the hearing today will address both appeals that are needed or just for the regular season.

Just to follow-up on the story with Louie Gill...  Today's hearing was with District 10 and they ruled that he's eligible to compete during the regular season but ineligible for the post-season (due to transferring after 10th grade).  That's pending a possible appeal.  Assuming he doesn't transfer again, he would be eligible for the post-season next season.
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Originally posted by Dodfan Dodfan wrote:

Originally posted by monkeyBoy monkeyBoy wrote:

Originally posted by botero botero wrote:

Reynolds has a PIAA state champ from another team at their school this year. Does that one count? 

Saw that news and honestly was shocked that he'll be eligible for the post-season, if the rumors are true.  Maybe I shouldn't have been shocked at this point?  Curious how they got that approved if true, but we'll probably never know (and that's probably for the best, I suppose).  Considering how close those two districts are, I doubt the reason would be a parent's job changed.  Family used to have a pretty active twitter account too but now it's private, so there's that.

Either way, I think everyone would agree that it's much easier for a private school to assemble a "super team" than a public school.  Though clearly both can do it with transfers.

If we think it's bad in wrestling, check out basketball and football.  There's a reason the PIAA included transfers in their competition formula for the classifications of those sports.
 
Does anyone honestly believe Reynolds "recruited" that wrestler? Don't get me wrong, the transfer is almost certainly athletically motivated but no one from Reynolds recruited him.

What would be the athletic reason to transfer to Reynolds. He's already a state champ and he's already committed to NC State? Why lose a season of your career just to wrestle for a better duals team?
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Originally posted by mo bloodyoung mo bloodyoung wrote:

What would be the athletic reason to transfer to Reynolds. He's already a state champ and he's already committed to NC State? Why lose a season of your career just to wrestle for a better duals team?

Not sure, though Hickory is moving up to AAA this season and Reynolds is still AA.  That's been one thing that's been talked about but most likely it's something else that won't be discussed publicly. 
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Originally posted by mo bloodyoung mo bloodyoung wrote:

Originally posted by Dodfan Dodfan wrote:

Originally posted by monkeyBoy monkeyBoy wrote:

Originally posted by botero botero wrote:

Reynolds has a PIAA state champ from another team at their school this year. Does that one count? 

Saw that news and honestly was shocked that he'll be eligible for the post-season, if the rumors are true.  Maybe I shouldn't have been shocked at this point?  Curious how they got that approved if true, but we'll probably never know (and that's probably for the best, I suppose).  Considering how close those two districts are, I doubt the reason would be a parent's job changed.  Family used to have a pretty active twitter account too but now it's private, so there's that.

Either way, I think everyone would agree that it's much easier for a private school to assemble a "super team" than a public school.  Though clearly both can do it with transfers.

If we think it's bad in wrestling, check out basketball and football.  There's a reason the PIAA included transfers in their competition formula for the classifications of those sports.
 
Does anyone honestly believe Reynolds "recruited" that wrestler? Don't get me wrong, the transfer is almost certainly athletically motivated but no one from Reynolds recruited him.

What would be the athletic reason to transfer to Reynolds. He's already a state champ and he's already committed to NC State? Why lose a season of your career just to wrestle for a better duals team?

Coaches? Practice partners? I have no clue. 
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I see on FLO at the Waterway Duals, a Charlie Robson (Conwell Egan?) wrestled with the kids from CR South. Was he just filling a slot or is now at a different school?
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